Question:
Pourquoi je plais dans le virtuel et pas dans la vraie vie?
anonymous
2006-10-26 18:00:14 UTC
Pourquoi je plais dans le virtuel et pas dans la vraie vie?
Dix-neuf réponses:
AKI
2006-10-27 03:39:40 UTC
Mais qui et comment tu es dans la vraie vie? Vraiment toi ?



Nous, on connaît Panda le nostalgique, mélomane, déconneur pas celui que les gens voient et côtoient et à qui tu renvoies, peut-être, une autre image.

Qu'est-ce que tu en as à faire de plaire ?

C'est important pour toi ?

Ben moi j't'aime bien.

Pour la consultation, c'est 50,00 euros

Tu as ta carte vitale ?
anonymous
2006-10-27 10:18:15 UTC
Parce que tu te sous-estime (d'accord avec Marie et d'autres), parce que tu n'ouvres peut-être pas assez tes yeux et ton coeur dans la vie réelle, parce que les gens laissent passer bcp plus de sentiments sur le net...



Vu tes réponses, tu sembles être qqun de bien, et qqun de bien plaît toujours, dans le virtuel comme dans le réel...
yvonne
2006-10-27 02:24:01 UTC
c est quoi la bazar de nunus?

car dans le virtuel seul les mots comptes

les idees

la vrai vie fait appele a tous les sens vue odorat ouie toucher gout feeling ca passe ou ca passe pas
tite
2006-10-27 02:11:00 UTC
La vrai vie est celle que tu mene. Ici sur yahoo tu menes une partie de ta vrai vie. Elle n'a rien de virtuelle.
Breizhonat
2006-10-27 01:49:34 UTC
Dans la vraie vie, les gens ne se parlent plus. Combien de fois ai-je eut le droit a des regards choqués parce que je leur disais bonjour a un arrêt de bus! Pareil, les gens ne prennent plus la peine de chercher plus loin que l'apparence. Pas seulement le physique, mais aussi ta baraque, ta voiture, tes fringues, etc...Nous sommes mis dans des tiroirs en un clin d'oeil et quelqu'un de réservé est trop souvent mis de côté.

L'avantage (malheureusement!) du virtuel, c'est que tous ces préjugés débiles n'existent plus. C'est la personnalité qui transparaît et du coup, elle séduit (ou pas).

Malgré tout, je continue a dire bonjour et a aller vers les gens. Tant pis si on m'envoie promener. J'ai rencontré certains de mes amis de cette manière, et leur amitié m'a fait oublier tous ceux qui ont préféré rester dans leur Petit monde.

Ne changes pas surtout, mais n'oublies pas de sourire!

Bisous!
anonymous
2006-10-27 01:27:52 UTC
Parce que tu te poses des limites dans la vraie vie , tu es peut-être timide,pas sûr(e) de toi, de ton physique,impressionnable,mais tu as TORT car ce que tu es ici,existe forcément dans la vraie vie puisque c'est une partie de toi......désolée mais je ne suis pas très claire dans ce que je dis mais j'espère que tu as compris!



Bon je vais me recoucher,bises!
Carine
2006-10-27 08:41:41 UTC
D'accord avec Marie, tu te sous éstime
@ηgiε
2006-10-27 08:19:41 UTC
Parce -ce que tu te sous-estime,!!

je ne suis pas la seule à te le dire,,,,,
alala in bed with csgffr
2006-10-27 05:43:58 UTC
quoi????? YQR c'est un monde virtuel??????? mince......
anonymous
2006-10-27 02:45:04 UTC
peut -être que dans la vraie vie tu n'agis pas comme le virtuel

dans le virtuel on ne peut pas nous voir tel que nous sommes;

un jour une personne verra l'intérieur de toi et non l'extérieur mais peut-être que tu es timide si oui fait du théâtre ça peut t'aider énormément
kesatria
2006-10-27 01:39:18 UTC
Parce que les filles quand elles réalisent que t'es un vrai panda, et ben elles osent plus faire ce qu'elles ont dit, les vilaines!



Tu parles des femmes hein? Mais t'en a une qui t'aime non? Alors?

Et moi, je suis sûr que y'a des gens qui t'aiment mais qui te l'on pas vraiment dit clairement.

Allez, p'tit verre!
thatou
2006-10-27 01:23:21 UTC
si tu veux te plaire dans la vraie vie et non pas dans le virtuel tu dois oser. si tu es timide tu verras toujours que tu plais dans le virtuel et non dans la vraie vie. Si tu veux, t u dois oser dans tout avec des limites si tu as des amis de longues date tu dois t'en faire a nouveaux car les amis qu'on a ne suffise pas c'est à dire que s'il était possible de devenir ami de tous les humains ça nous faciliterais la tache. Donc tu dois rester ouverte à tous et non te plier sur toi même et tu verras que tu plairas à tout le monde même ceux que tu n'oserais jamais imginer
Fleurdenuit
2006-10-27 01:16:59 UTC
Peut être parce que tu dégages une certaine aura mais aussi que le virtuel est la porte ouverte à l'imagination, aux fantasmes et que dans la vie de tous les jours, nous sommes plus discrets, plus intériorisé(es)...

Je ne doute point de ton pouvoir de séduction envers la gent féminine...
Hades et Persephone
2006-10-27 01:11:07 UTC
ben les peluches c'est mignon mais un humain une barbe de quatre jour c'est pas aussi charmant qu'un penda
Lulu M
2006-10-27 01:09:20 UTC
Parce que derriere ton ordi, tu n'a pas honte de te decouvrir tel que tu es, alors que dans la vie oui. La chose exitante est que dans la vie, la recompense est palpable, alors que derriere ton PC, non, c'est juste une recompence virtuel. Personne ne te connait reellement et en general s'en foute de toi. Aprend a etre toi meme dans la vie de tout les jours, c'est beaucoup mieux.

Bonne chance
Pulsar
2006-10-27 01:06:32 UTC
Ton avatar t'aide un peu. Et la qualité de tes questions et réponses. Dans la vraie vie tu ne dois pas parler beaucoup, et puis une figure de panda, ça ne court pas les rues de baghdad!

Cette rue qui seule se rappelle de moi alors que personne ne se rappelle de moi depuis notre séparation! Et c'est suffisant!
nanourimka
2006-10-27 01:04:59 UTC
je ne sais pas si tu plais dans le virtuel je ne te connais pas ,mais dans la vie en générale tu n'es peut etre pas toi mm
boul gogo
2006-10-27 01:46:51 UTC
parce que vous vous laissez enporter par quelqun
nunus
2006-10-27 01:57:01 UTC
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1 Deciding to disambiguate

1.1 What not to include

1.1.1 Dictionary definitions

1.1.2 Duplicate topics

1.1.3 Lists

1.1.4 List of ships

1.1.5 Sister projects

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3.3 Page naming conventions

3.3.1 Generic topic

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3.3.3 Specific topic

4 Links

4.1 Double disambiguation

4.2 Interlanguage links

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[edit] Deciding to disambiguate



[edit] What not to include



[edit] Dictionary definitions

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[edit] Duplicate topics

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[edit] Disambiguation links

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[edit] Top links

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Which is generated by entering: {{For|the computer programming language|ColdFusion}}

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Where there are several articles to be disambiguated from each other, include a link to a separate disambiguation page. In many cases, the template {{Otheruses}} is appropriate to link to that page. However, a variety of special cases are also handled. For example,



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[edit] Template examples

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A longer, but incomplete list of disambiguation templates is found at Wikipedia:Template_messages/General#Disambiguation_and_redirection, with further style information at Wikipedia:Hatnotes#Templates. Many more templates are listed in Category:Disambiguation and redirection templates.



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[edit] Disambiguation pages

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[edit] Preparation

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[edit] Construction

Assuming a Generic topic page, use the What links here list of the moved page to access the redirect page created by the move, and replace that redirect page with the new disambiguation page.



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For example, the specific topic Tables (board game) links to Table (disambiguation), a redirect to Table with the template {{R to disambiguation page}}. Table is a generic topic disambiguation page.



[edit] Primary topic

When there is a well known primary meaning for a term or phrase (indicated by a majority of links in existing articles and consensus of the editors of those articles that it will be significantly more commonly searched for and read than other meanings), then that topic may be used for the title of the main article, with a disambiguation link at the top. Where there is no such clearly dominant usage there is no primary topic page.



Ensure that the "(disambiguation)" page links back to an unambiguous page name. The unambiguous page name should redirect to the primary topic page. This assists future editors (and automated processes).



For example, the primary topic Rome has a link at the top to Rome (disambiguation), where there is a link back via Rome, Italy (rather than directly to Rome).



[edit] Specific topic

For disambiguating specific topic pages, several options are available:



When there is another word (such as Cheque instead of Check) or more complete name that is equally clear (such as Titan rocket), that should be used.

A disambiguating word or phrase can be added in parentheses. The word or phrase in parentheses should be:

the generic class that includes the topic (for example, Mercury (element), Seal (mammal)); or

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Rarely, an adjective describing the topic can be used, but it's usually better to rephrase the title to avoid parentheses.

If there is a choice between disambiguating with a generic class or with a context, choose whichever is simpler. Use the same disambiguating phrase for other topics within the same context.



For example, "(mythology)" rather than "(mythological figure)".

If there is a choice between using a short phrase and word with context, there is no hard rule about which is preferred. Both may be created, with one redirecting to the other.



For example, Mathematical analysis and Analysis (mathematics).

When the context is a book or other creative work, such as with articles about fictional characters, avoid lots of little stubs about fictional characters: check your fiction.



To conform to the naming conventions, the phrase in parentheses should be treated just as any other word in a title: normally lowercase, unless it is a proper noun that always appears capitalized even in running text (such as a book title).



For more on which word or phrase to insert in the parentheses, see Wikipedia:Naming conventions and Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions.





[edit] Links



[edit] Double disambiguation

A double disambiguation is a link to a disambiguation page from another disambiguation page. This kind of disambiguation is typically more specific than one with a simplified name. These kind of disambiguations are relatively rare on Wikipedia.



For example, Defense is a disambiguation page that leads to Defense industry, a secondary disambiguation page.



[edit] Interlanguage links

Pure disambiguation pages should contain interlanguage links only where a similar problem of disambiguation exists in the target language; that is, they should not point to a single meaning from the list of meanings, but to another disambiguation page.





[edit] Links to disambiguated topics

A code of honor for creating disambiguation pages is to fix all resulting mis-directed links.



Before creating a disambiguation page, click on What links here to find all of the pages that link to the page that is about to change. Make sure that those pages are fixed and that they won't be adversely affected when performing the {{split}} or {{splitsection}}.



When repairing a link, use pipe syntax so that the link does not contain the new qualifier.



For example, when renaming Topic Name to Topic Name (qualifier), [[Topic Name (qualifier)|Topic Name]] will render as Topic Name just like the original.

A shorter alternative is to use empty pipe syntax, also known as the pipe trick. This allows editors to leave out the piped alternative when editing.



For example, typing "[[Topic Name (qualifier)|]]" will automatically produce "[[Topic Name (qualifier)|Topic Name]]". Read Help:Pipe trick for more information.

Of course, the whole point of making a disambiguation page is that accidental links made to it will make sense. These Wikipedia:Disambiguation pages with links are periodically checked and repaired.



There is a tool to facilitate this in the Python Wikipedia Robot. The bot offers to update links to choices listed on the disambiguation page. Don't forget to post a notice on the Wikipedia talk:Bots page.



[edit] Links to disambiguation pages

There is rarely a need for links directly to disambiguation pages—except from any primary topic. In most cases, links should point to the article that deals with the specific meaning intended.



To link to a disambiguation page (instead of a specific meaning), link to the redirect to the disambiguation page that includes the text "(disambiguation)" in the title (such as, America (disambiguation)). This helps distinguish accidental links to the disambiguation page from intentional ones.



The Wikipedia software has a feature that lists "orphan" pages; that is, no other page links to them. But for disambiguating pages, that's perfectly correct: we usually want pages to link to the more specific pages.



In order to make the orphans list more useful by not cluttering it with intentional orphans, disambiguation pages are linked from:



Wikipedia:Links to disambiguating pages,

Wikipedia:Links to (disambiguation) pages,

Wikipedia:Multiple-place names, and

Wikipedia:Non-unique personal name.

When you create a disambiguation page, add a link to it in one of those pages as appropriate.



Category:Disambiguation provides a complete list of disambiguation pages.


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